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Atomic Dreams

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That kind of vision makes nuclear power irrelevant. If we can reach a societal consensus that what we desire is a slower and smaller way of living, a reconceived notion of success, then we can fundamentally reformulate our energy system. In any discussion involving a redefinition of “progress,” nuclear power is not simply dangerous or dirty—it’s pointless. That’s a conversation the nuclear industry is unlikely to win.

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Jason Mark is editor of Earth Island Journal, a publication of the environmental group Earth Island Institute. Mark is also coauthor, with Kevin Danaher and Shannon Biggs, of Building the Green Economy: Success Stories from the Grassroots (PoliPointPress, 2007). Reprinted from Earth Island Journal (Autumn 2007). Subscriptions: $25/yr. (4 issues), includes institute membership, from 300 Broadway, Suite 28, San Francisco, CA 94133; www.earthisland.org.

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  • mistydawn 2/2/2008 12:00:00 AM

    "If we can reach a societal consensus that what we desire is a
    slower and smaller way of living, a reconceived notion of success,
    then we can fundamentally reformulate our energy system." I'm glad
    to see the author state what most environmentalists appear to be
    avoiding. Most people don't want to make do with less material
    goods. I suppose that's human nature... bigger, better, faster,
    more... but I think it's also our downfall. Recently I checked out
    Treehugger.com for the first time. I thought it sounded like a site
    a could relate to. The first thing I saw on the site was a cooler
    with wheels and a motor attached. If this is what "green" means to
    people, I want no part of it!

  • Poor Journalism 1/29/2008 12:00:00 AM

    From the article: "Nuclear plants could reduce the need for
    waste storage by “reprocessing” the fuel, but that would create
    weapons-grade radioactive material." My understanding is that
    during fuel reprocessing the waste is reduced by re-refining it
    into more usable nuclear fuel. The concern, and reason Carter
    banned the facilities in the 70's, was that the same equipment can
    be used to produce weapons-grade plutonium/uranium. The article is
    misleading when it states weapons-grade material is a necessary
    by-product. The issue is a security/control one.

  • Poor Journalism 1/29/2008 12:00:00 AM

    From the article: "Nuclear plants could reduce the need for
    waste storage by “reprocessing” the fuel, but that would create
    weapons-grade radioactive material." My understanding is that
    during fuel reprocessing the waste is reduced by re-refining it
    into more usable nuclear fuel. The concern, and reason Carter
    banned the facilities in the 70's, was that the same equipment can
    be used to produce weapons-grade plutonium/uranium. The article is
    misleading when it states weapons-grade material is a necessary
    by-product. The issue is a security/control one.

  • Tom Owens 1/9/2008 12:00:00 AM

    I've given nuclear a lot of thought. I'm not so much against it
    as I am against fighting it. The worst danger is doing nothing and
    I fear a stalemate in which we neither build nuclear power plants
    nor develop alternatives and conservation. Those of us who are
    concerned ab out global warming, cannot use up our energy
    preventing something. We need to use all our energy to develop
    another way. The danger or nuclear power lies in things might
    possibly happen. The greater danger is global warming and the
    things that definitely will happen if we don't do enough.

  • Randal Leavitt 12/27/2007 12:00:00 AM

    An objective review of the available data has certainly
    convinced me that nuclear power is safe, clean, reliable,
    sustainable, inexpensive, and has a lot of potential for even more
    progress in all these areas. It holds the promise of a significant
    step forward, leading to a world wide improvement in everyone's
    standard of living. That is what I have concluded after spending
    the last five years studying it. This obvious finding leaves us in
    a delicate situation - how to assuage the guilt and embarrassment
    of the green celebrities who have delayed its introduction, causing
    hundreds of thousands of deaths as a result of coal combustion
    pollution and coal mining, and perhaps even pushing the planet past
    the brink in its global heating crisis. These people were well
    intentioned, I believe, and definitely energetic. But they were
    wrong. What will they do now? Will they dig in, and keep coming up
    with ever more extreme and unbelievable justifications for their
    destructive leadership, or will they change and now try to do the
    right thing? I really hope that they choose change, along with the
    evidence based reasoning, scientific knowledge, and inclusive
    compassion that is needed. But you can't always get what you want.
    So here we have Mr. Mark digging in. His first shovel full throws
    out the myth that nuclear power is the same as big central
    government. Sorry, this is just not so. Nuclear power can be
    produced using small systems in a widely distributed pattern. In
    fact this is exactly what is happening in South Africa. Why is this
    approach going so slowly there? Answer: fanatical opposition from
    greens. So the greens oppose nuclear power because they say it
    looks like big centralized government, and then when it does not
    look like big central government they oppose it anyway. This is
    disingenuous. It is just this kind of twisting and verbal squirming
    that has totally put me off. Falsely categorizing nuclear power as
    forcing centralized

  • Rod Adams 12/26/2007 12:00:00 AM

    The 104 nuclear power plants that are currently operating in the
    US produce about 780 terawatt-hours each year. That is the energy
    equivalent of more than 4 million barrels of oil per day and
    represents 20% of the electricity produced and consumed in the US.
    Essentially all of the construction for those plants took place in
    just 30 years between 1963 and 1993. When those plants were
    started, the world had little experience in constructing and
    operating large nuclear plants. Engineers and draftsmen did design
    work using T-squares, compasses, paper and slide rules. The
    resulting plants are now operating with an average capacity factor
    of more than 90% (that is flat out for about 7900 hours per year
    out of a possible 8760). Most of them will operate for at least 60
    years. The average production cost from those plants is 1.72 cents
    per kilowatt hour while the average production cost from coal is
    2.37, natural gas is 6.75 and petroleum is 9.63. Wind power from
    huge wind farms costs in excess of 7 cents (once the production tax
    credit is included back into the costs) and small wind and solar
    systems produce unreliable power that costs in excess of 20 cents
    per kilowatt hour under any reasonable assumption for interest
    costs on the initial investment. The waste products from atomic
    fission have been safely handled for more than fifty years without
    a known incident anywhere in the world where a person was injured
    by accidental exposure to the high level waste. The really good
    news is that the used fuel still contains about 95-97% of its
    original potential energy and we KNOW how to recycle that fuel to
    produce more energy and other useful products. Why do many people
    who are terribly concerned about the impending disaster of global
    warming advocate ignoring the potential of atomic fission? As a
    former submarine Engineer Officer, I have an intimate and personal
    understanding of the fact that atomic fission power plants are very
    useful in closed e

  • Rod Adams 12/26/2007 12:00:00 AM

    The 104 nuclear power plants that are currently operating in the
    US produce about 780 terawatt-hours each year. That is the energy
    equivalent of more than 4 million barrels of oil per day and
    represents 20% of the electricity produced and consumed in the US.
    Essentially all of the construction for those plants took place in
    just 30 years between 1963 and 1993. When those plants were
    started, the world had little experience in constructing and
    operating large nuclear plants. Engineers and draftsmen did design
    work using T-squares, compasses, paper and slide rules. The
    resulting plants are now operating with an average capacity factor
    of more than 90% (that is flat out for about 7900 hours per year
    out of a possible 8760). Most of them will operate for at least 60
    years. The average production cost from those plants is 1.72 cents
    per kilowatt hour while the average production cost from coal is
    2.37, natural gas is 6.75 and petroleum is 9.63. Wind power from
    huge wind farms costs in excess of 7 cents (once the production tax
    credit is included back into the costs) and small wind and solar
    systems produce unreliable power that costs in excess of 20 cents
    per kilowatt hour under any reasonable assumption for interest
    costs on the initial investment. The waste products from atomic
    fission have been safely handled for more than fifty years without
    a known incident anywhere in the world where a person was injured
    by accidental exposure to the high level waste. The really good
    news is that the used fuel still contains about 95-97% of its
    original potential energy and we KNOW how to recycle that fuel to
    produce more energy and other useful products. Why do many people
    who are terribly concerned about the impending disaster of global
    warming advocate ignoring the potential of atomic fission? As a
    former submarine Engineer Officer, I have an intimate and personal
    understanding of the fact that atomic fission power plants are very
    useful in closed e

  • David Eisenberg 12/22/2007 12:00:00 AM

    In the ongoing debate about nuclear power, we constantly are
    told that nuclear power is carbon-free, has no carbon footprint,
    and that it offers the only real solution to energy generation at a
    scale that could address our growing energy needs. The article
    makes that point that because it ten years or more to build a
    nuclear power plant, any climate benefit will not start until
    around 2020 for the first new plants to come on line. The reality
    is worse. When you realize the enormity of the carbon footprint of
    building the hundreds of nuclear plants required, as well as from
    the mining and transporation and processing and reprocessing of the
    fuel needed to power them, you see that we would be adding a
    gigantic carbon spike for the next fifteen to twenty years - using
    up valuable petroleum and other finite resources, long before we
    would get ANY climate benefit. It not only takes 10 or 12 years to
    get these things built and up and running, but they aren't carbon
    neutral for years - they have to repay the carbon that was put in
    the atmosphere in order to get them up and running and even when
    they are up and running, they are still not carbon neutral because
    operating them requires a lot of other systems and processes that
    are not solely energy-related. To say that this is a solution is
    ludicrous for a problem that needs to be solved in the next decade
    or two at best. Then, you add in the insanity of the economics,
    particularly with so much steel, cement, other metals and resources
    flowing to China and India, which is already driving up the cost of
    construction for such plants to two or three times the projected
    costs, and questions about peaking uranium supplies, terrorism,
    waste storage, and the vulnerability of an ever more centralized
    power system and the fact that these things produce the most toxic
    substance known to man in great quantities doesn't even have to be
    brought into the conversation. This is the legacy solution for ou

  • K. Barsotti 12/20/2007 12:00:00 AM

    I bought Utne Reader just for the article on nuclear power. What
    a disappointment! 1. The concern over waste is a valid one,
    especially transportation, but the French method seems to be
    working well. Around 75% of their energy is nuclear. They vitrify
    the waste and have a staging process for security and storage.
    Evidently, it's secure, affordable, and working. If it's not, your
    article should have addressed their failures or obstacles. We have
    a model to examine and should do so, for our own understanding. 2.
    Some people quoted in the article made disparaging comments about
    engineers or the nuclear industry, as being interested only in
    making money or in engineering solutions. One could just as easily
    reply that environmentalists are only interested in environmental
    solutions. Of course these firms want to make money, but they have
    to make bids and be accountable for meeting reasonable costs.
    Engineering firms also, typically, do not have an outrageous rate
    of return on their efforts, just a respectable one. The businesses
    is cyclical, expensive, and complex. Other industries do less and
    make more in profit. 3. The article was long on vision and short on
    details. I was interested to learn more about conserving energy as
    the main way of reducing emissions. All for it. But how do you
    enforce such a measure? A few examples would have been quite
    enlightening. Just saying that we should make sacrifices and
    re-think our entire society might be laudable, but it's also
    frustrating. Such wholesale changes tend to be driven by costs,
    when the current lifestyle is too expensive, or from health, when
    the current lifestyle becomes deadly. Or from legislation, from
    laws and penalties. OK. Fine. What, exactly, is your suggestion for
    taking that approach? Is there some sort of truly realistic plan
    out there? If it's all about local solutions, how does the entire
    nation embrace a new way of life? One of the reasons that I dislike
    readin

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