Chutzpah
Naomi Klein speaks out on Israel
March / April 2003
Interview by Lauren Sandler heeb
You wrote an article on Israel for your college
newspaper called ?From Victim to Victimizer.? Tell me about that
controversial article and the dramatic response to
it.
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The experience of writing about Israel was so incredibly
negative for me 11 years ago that I haven?t written about Israel
since. I had gone to Israel at the start of the first intifada,
when I was 19. I didn?t know what it was. People talked about an
intifada and I thought it meant a heat wave, because it was really,
really hot. I went with my mother, and we met with people from the
women?s movement in Israel, and the peace movement, so I was
exposed to the fact that there is diversity of opinion there. I was
also exposed to the way in which Israeli violence and the
militarization of the country affects women in particular, and
creates a culture of violence. A lot of our discussions were about
how women were told that every other issue had to be deferred until
there was peace, so issues like violence against women and abortion
were not considered truly legitimate or important until this
moment, which never seems to come, arrived. I started to think
about the whole psychology of being so determined not to have
violence inflicted on you that you can?t see when you inflict
violence on others.
This, of course, resonates in the present tense as
well.
We see this right now with Sharon, when he?s giving speeches
about how they [Israel?s enemies] want to chase Israelis into the
sea, and he can?t see that he?s the one doing the chasing. The way
we talk about our victimization and the way we talk about our
history in the mainstream sense, instead of extending sympathy and
compassion, has had the opposite effect. We are blinded to the
victimization of others and can even have a sadistic streak, which
is reflected in the high levels of domestic violence in Israel.
It?s a psychology that Jews are really unwilling to see because our
narrative is one of triumph over tragedy. It?s never that
simple.